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15 June 2021

IS EVERYTHING FORLORN?

we will yet see if these are fully enacted and/or are truly destructive

Yamina’s coalition agreement with Yesh Atid mentions reforms to the system for Jewish conversion, the provision of kashrut services, and the method of electing the chief rabbis.

Draft coalition agreements between Yesh Atid and Yamina and Yesh Atid and Yisrael Beytenu indicate that reforms to key matters of religion and state will be on the agenda of the putative government that looks likely to be sworn in soon.


Yamina’s coalition agreement with Yesh Atid mentions reforms to the system for Jewish conversion, the provision of kashrut (Kosher) services, and the method of electing the chief rabbis.


Yisrael Beytenu’s agreement with Yesh Atid also mentions reforms to kashrut and conversion, but addresses a far greater range of religion and state issues, including stipulations regarding civil marriage, the Western Wall prayer access agreement, the ultra-Orthodox education system, and commerce and public transportation on Shabbat.


But the Yamina-Yesh Atid agreement also states explicitly that no reforms will be enacted to the current status quo on religion and state issues unless there is agreement within the coalition to make such changes.


And critically, the coalition agreement between Yamina and Yesh Atid states explicitly that all parties to the coalition will be beholden to that agreement, and that if the coalition agreements between Yesh Atid and other parties contradict the Yamina agreement, the Yamina agreement will take precedence.


Essentially, this means that the desired religion and state reforms of Yisrael Beytenu, and those of the left-wing and liberal coalition partners, will not come to fruition unless Yamina agrees to them.


Yamina’s coalition agreement with Yesh Atid makes four main proposals for change on religion and state matters.


On conversion, the agreement stipulates that the incoming religious services minister, which will likely be Yamina MK Matan Kahana, will advance legislation to allow municipal chief rabbis to perform conversions. [he “pledged” not to contravene halacha]


This is an explosive proposal which generated intense opposition from chief rabbis Yitzhak Yosef and David Lau, as well as the ultra-Orthodox United Torah Judaism and Shas parties back in 2014 when MK Elazar Stern advanced such legislation.


The legislation would decentralize control over conversion and significantly curtail the influence of the chief rabbis over the process. [me: Rabbi Anava also said that the office of the chief rabbis is state owned, bought and influenced by. so, does this really matter to frum Jews?]


Critically, it would allow liberally inclined municipal chief rabbis to implement policies such as the conversion of minors, and to utilize more lenient criteria for conversion in general, which the ultra-Orthodox establishment vehemently opposes.


This proposal is the same as the conversion reforms stipulated by Yisrael Beytenu in its agreement with Yesh Atid, so there would appear to be internal coalition consensus on this issue, in theory.


Yamina’s agreement also states that the incoming religious services minister will advance legislation to create competition within the kashrut supervision market, and unify standards.


Such legislation would remove the legal monopoly of the Chief Rabbinate over kashrut supervision, in particular the ability of businesses under independent kashrut supervision to declare themselves in writing to be kosher, something forbidden under current law.


The agreement adds that legislation would be advanced to change the make-up of the electoral body that elects chief rabbis, with the specific goal of electing “a Zionist chief rabbi,” that is, not an ultra-Orthodox one. [ibid]


Currently, both chief rabbis hail from the ultra-Orthodox community and the language of Yamina’s coalition agreement indicates that the legislative changes would be designed to elect at least one religious-Zionist rabbi.


Finally, Yamina’s agreement stipulates changes to the Selection Committee for Rabbinical Judges.


It states that the chairman of the committee will be the religious services minister, which would give Kahana significant authority in the selection process.


In addition, it would ensure that two female MKs serve on the committee, one from Yamina and another from a different coalition party.


Legislation will also be passed to ensure that two of the four ministers and coalition MKs on the committee are women to increase gender parity on the highly sensitive panel.


In line with Yisrael Beytenu’s heavy focus on religion and state issues, as well as its focus on changing the state’s relationship with the ultra-Orthodox, its agreement with Yesh Atid includes several other pressing matters pertaining to religious life in Israel.


Yisrael Beytenu’s agreement stipulates that the coalition sees “as a national goal the teaching of core curriculum subjects for all Israeli pupils.”


This is a reference to the fact that the majority of ultra-Orthodox boys do not learn core curriculum subjects such as Mathematics, science, computer studies or English in elementary school, along with the overwhelming majority of ultra-Orthodox boys during their high-school years. [is it so bad to learn math and English? its not the russian language! they really dont need science.]


This is a key issue for Yisrael Beytenu as it seeks to reduce state subsidies to the ultra-Orthodox sector which is beset by poverty, largely due to the low participation rate of men from the sector in the workforce. [i think this will be proven incorrect, because they are not including the frum women in the work force]


The ultra-Orthodox political and rabbinic leadership is fiercely opposed to any intervention in its education system, and any efforts to enforce the teaching of core curriculum subjects could result in protests and societal tension.


In addition, Yisrael Beytenu’s agreement requires that legislation be passed allowing for civil unions, a form of civil marriage, in Israel for couples who currently cannot marry in the country.


This would allow tens of thousands of Israeli citizens from the former Soviet Union who are not Jewish according to Jewish law to marry in Israel, as well as homosexual couples, and couples who the Chief Rabbinate will not marry for various reasons of Jewish law. [well there is no compromise when it comes to the ‘flag’ people. perhaps Ra’am will intervene here for real fireworks]


Although civil marriages performed abroad are recognized by the Interior Ministry, the ultra-orthodox parties will continue to oppose the institution of civil unions or civil marriage in Israel should this legislation be advanced.


Yisrael Beytenu’s agreement with Yesh Atid also states that the two sides commit to allow public transportation on Shabbat, something which is currently banned by law in most of the country, and to give local municipal authorities the right to increase commercial activity, especially shopping, on Shabbat, something which is currently under the authority of the Interior Ministry. [definitely a no-no and these are fighting words]


The secular population chafes at this state of affairs, while the ultra-Orthodox parties have insisted that preventing public transportation and increased commerce on Shabbat preserves the Jewish character of the state.


Yisrael Beytenu also insisted in its coalition deal that the Western Wall agreement of 2016 be implemented. [don’t know what this is]


The agreement would have created a government recognized prayer section for progressive Jewish worship at the Western Wall, vastly upgraded the current site and given Reform and Conservative representatives a place on the new site’s governing committee. [uh,oh]


Although the ultra-Orthodox parties initially agreed to this arrangement, internal pressure within the community led them to backtrack and they forced Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to indefinitely suspend the agreement in 2017.



7 comments:

Daniel Grad said...
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Neshama said...

this may sound crazy, but didn’t Bibi just do this??

moshe said...

Daniel Grad, your comment makes no sense whatsoever. We pray for the downfall of this new evil regime, but in the interim, the harm they can cause the Jewish people is catastrophic. Of course, once MBD is here, he will cleanse the whole of our people and those infiltrators from within will be gone. Torah Judaism was given to the 12 Tribes of Israel, all who are from one family. We take righteous converts, meaning those halachacly converted because they really have Jewish neshamot and are just returning to their correct place. When it comes to marriage, divorce, conversions and kashrut, etc., there are NO compromises! Even though, the Rabbinate is of the 'state', they are ultra religious and very scholarly Rabbis and because they are the main body for overseeing Torah laws, they must remain as is. These elections that have all been corrupted everywhere are all part of the scheme and agenda of the nwo! They know how to play the game very shrewdly, giving a false sense of showing they are sincere; no different than the original Erev Rav who pleaded with Moshe to come along to join our people and we know what happened with that, to this day. These 'leaders' are their reincarnations! We are now feeling the pain of the birth pangs before the coming of our righteous Moshiach. May H' give every real Jew the strength, the wisdom and judgment to understand to do the right thing by not falling for the scams we have gone through and still going through to this very day.

Neshama said...

Netanyahu is finished, he served as long as HaShem wanted him. Now we are headed in another direction.

Gavriela Dvorah said...

The problem with "core curriculum" is that the secular leftists include sex education, gender identification, masturbation, and gender change, or whatever you want to call it. They want to teach our kids that they can be a boy if they're a girl, or a girl if they're a boy and that it's okay to masturbate as long as they do it in private. Haredi schools are going to have to learn how to get along without state money. Toldot Aaron has never taken money from the medinat. They never recognized the medinat and they take no benefit from it. This is the way we must go. And if you think I'm crazy, look at what's going on in America. We are going the same way. Especially now that they want to bring in the influence of the Reformim. And I didn't make up that piece about masturbation, I just saw a horrendous video made for 5-6 year olds all about it.

Neshama said...

You are 100% correct and on target.
It’s utterly disgusting what is going on in America, but according to my sources it’s is soon to come to an end and the restitution of morality will begin. Whether it is one third or one half they will be dealt with. I feel pretty certain that sanity will be returning to America. Whether in all the blue states is questionable, they may be subject to earthquake and flooding, for the waters of a Mikve cleanse.

May the earth open its mouth and swallow the evil ones!

Gavriela Dvorah said...

HaGaon Chacham Shalom Cohen, the Nasi of the Moetzet Chachmei HaTorah of Shas, has instructed the Shas MKs not to cooperate with the Bennett-Lapid government, even for the purpose of establishing budgets for mosdos chinuch.

“It’s forbidden under any circumstances to cooperate with those destroyers of religion and partners to this evil government,” HaRav Cohen instructed the members of Shas. “Whoever turns to them and receives assistance through them is causing a chillul Hashem and no bracha will rest on him.”


“There’s no need to turn to them,” HaRav Cohen added. “Hakadosh Baruch Hu will make sure that nothing will be lacking.”

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