[UNDERSTAND: THIS ARTICLE IS HERESAY, REPORTING ON A REPORT OF A TELEPHONE CONVERSATION: MY COMENTS IN BRACKETS]
JERUSALEM (VINnews) — A stunning conversation took place between a well known proponent of the anti-vaccine movement in Israel and a vaccine supporter, both Charedim
During the heated phone call, anti-vaxxer [‘vaccine' questioner] Rabbi Dr. Yoav Alon debated Itcha Dzalovski, who is in charge of the Health Ministry’s Charedi phone hotline. The discussion, as reported on Charedi news site Kikar Shabbos, offered a fascinating insight into the mindset of Covid vaccine opponents. Rabbi Alon staunchly asserted that Gedolei Yisrael are being misled and given false information. He also said that Klal Yisrael is headed for catastrophe.
Rabbi Alon said, “I am sure that these vaccines are very dangerous for Am Yisrael and the leadership we have today in the guise of Gedolei Torah is very dangerous for Am Yisrael. We are heading for catastrophe. The new world order really wants to destroy us. These vaccines are really very dangerous. Giving them to five-year-olds is crazy.” [rather a non-vaccine, but a toxic-bio-brew]
Rabbi Alon added that one of his goals is to show people that there are Gedolim who oppose Covid vaccines.
Mr. Dzhalowski asked if Rabbi Alon believes that the many Gedolim who support vaccines are making a mistake, including Rav Chaim Kanievsky, Rav Gershon Edelstein, the Gerrer Rebbe, the Vizhnitzer Rebbe and others.
Rabbi Alon replied that they are *'surely mistaken' in their support for the vaccines.
Mr. Dzhalowski accused Rabbi Alon of misleading certain Gedolim into believing that Covid vaccines are unsafe. He suggested that he and a group of “anarchists” are manipulating leaders into believing nonsense. [“Anarchists", like those going against the former USSR?]
Rabbi Alon defended himself by saying that there are Gedolim who agree with him, such as Rav Malkiel Kotler and Rabbi Yosef Binyamin Wozner, and he asked why they are being ignored.
Mr. Dzhalowski replied that there are many more Gedoim who support vaccines, and that it is more likely for a handful of Rabbonim, who do not have medical opinions backing them up, to be misled. [THERE IS A WEALTH OF SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE CONTRARY TO MR DZHALOWSKI's DISTORTED THINKING]
At one point, Rabbi Alon said that he was told that Mr. Dzalowski had not been vaccinated, and asked if that claim was accurate. Itcha replied, “Of course I’ve been vaccinated, three doses. Do you think I’m crazy? Do you think I would listen to nonsense from people whose thinking is distorted?”
https://vinnews.com/2021/12/26/in-stunning-phone-call-outspoken-charedi-anti-vaxxer-says-gedolim-are-being-misled/
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[me: However, It’s obvious who’s “thinking is distorted” and who is “misleading who”!
*Rabbi Alon is giving the Rabbis the benefit of the doubt. (When others have said those who support and promote the vaccine are possibly compromised in some way. However, not in the case of Rav Kanievsky because it is known he is "not feeling well”.]
4 comments:
If this Mr. D. took the real jabs, then he is hypnotized to come out with such ridiculous answers. Mostly, it is quite evident since he works for the Min. of Health that he is totally compromised. The sins are on their heads and this proves how divine the prophecies of Chazal are when they said that most of the leadership and rabbis will be erev rav. Praying that most Jews in EY realize how they have been played, and also knowing the government they now have who are leading them are part of the sonei Yisrael.
Rabbi Alon is an honest Rabbi using his common sense and stating truth, common sense truth which so very many do not have today, r'l. Those 'frumme' Yidden who put their trust in man and in phony science just prove how dishonest they are.
emmess
new anon – cannot post your link. please explain what it saya and who says it!
Someone from Petach-tikva asks r. Chaim Kanievski if all children in cheder ben 5 should be vxed? Yanke, a grandson of rabbi "helps" his grandfather to understand talking loud to his ear. And rabbi Kanievski answeres "yes". It might be that rabbi is captured...Very sad...Leah
You got it Leah!!
Read R Weissman’s new spoofie soon to be posted.
You will get a huge laugh from it!
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