Anon, I don’t know. I think he feels that it is up to the Gedolim of the generation to issue a psak or quasi-psak. He didn’t want to get involved in the ‘vaccine’ issues, and consulted with the highest Torah Authority for a psak.
Not everyone is able to financially pick up and move. Nefesh has been holding Aliya Info Extravaganzas in New York for many years. My husband and I went to one; my husband needed to see what it was all about. As for myself, I knew I wanted to leave. After my Mother a”h passed on, I had to wait for him to be agreeable. Some people just cannot adjust to the mentality, and are not willing to ‘bend’. Just think about all the Jews who came to America at the turn of the century, and after the war, trying to get used to such a modern country after living in shtetls or dirt-road east european villages.
Not always an easy thing to do. It takes time, planning, and finances to at least get over here and be able to live somewhere initially, before settling in for the long haul. Some people have frail elderly parents, or an ill spouse to take care of.
Its a huge emotional change, and a gigantic adjustment, especially if one has school-age children.
If one is highly motivated and willing to “compromise” the success of relocating to a middle-eastern-tough-minded society can be achieved.
Neshama, I understand everything you write about the difficulties. Elsewhere I have written at length about this. There needs to be a massive organised aliya precisely to help people in the kind of situations you write about. But first of all community leaders have to be speaking about it and taking steps and putting pressure on the Israeli government to step up. I understand that it takes time, which is precisely why every American Jew has to start making plans. The best thing would be community aliya, so people can stay with other English speakers and acclimatise slowly. At some point it is going to become pikuach nefesh shel mamash, and then the usual absorption issues will become secondary to just wanting to save one's skin.
Hashem is screaming out to Am Yisrael. I believe that you posted the post about the three shofarot. I have had no rest since Pittsburg, I feel it viscerally that it will be remembered as the tipping point. On top of that the general situation in America is quite volatile, economically and also socially. America is by far the most violent developed country in the world. And as Rav Mizrahi rightly pointed out whatever happens angry, frustrated people always scapegoat the Jews.
I'm not claiming to have all the answers, but I am terribly frustrated that I have not found one rabbi on the internet from America who says that Jews have to leave. And only one in Israel. I don't know Rav Mizrahi's reason. I doubt it is because of what you say, because if that were the case he could have discussed it, as with the vaccines, but he just didn't even mention it.
I do feel that the galut of America is the worst of all being the galut of the mind. Americans are brainwashed into believing that America is the greatest country on earth, and most Jews there feel first and foremost American. Just an example: an American doctor in Israel told me about her friend who won't make aliya because of her child's medical condition. She told her friend that the care for the child's problem is better in Israel than in America, and much cheaper, but her friend refuses to believe her.
I just feel like sticking my head in the sand, as it seems to me that no-one is interested in this burning issue.
Anon. Thank you for taking the time to reply. I suggest you take your thoughts straight to Yeshiva World News and to Vosizneias do there can be an online debate. MYbe, just maybe, the thought will be taken to some Rabbis and will reach the ears of some Rabbis to get the Jews in America to rethink their future based on current warnings.
You're right, but I am not optimistic. I used to be vegetarian, not militantly, and more times than not meat-eaters at a shabbat table would attack me for this. I feel that trying to argue with most Jews in chul about this is like trying to talk to meat-eaters of the virtues of vegetarianism whilst they are tucking into their steak. The perceived self-interest is just too great to have any meaningful conversation.
As an aside, I had a thought this morning about the coming devaluation of the dollar. The dollar is actually a vehicle for spreading emuna. It is pretty much universally accepted and it is written on it "in Gd we trust". But now that the US officially goes against the seven noachide laws, its motto no longer has any value and neither will its currency.
I don't know anything about economics, what I wrote above is my intuition, but here is an article stating that the Shekel is the world's second strongest currency. But yet again I think that Americans will not be able to escape their indoctrination.
What I do know however is that on a good many occasions professionals gave me truly bad advice, but I did what seemed to be common sense to me, which B"D turned out to be right. Sometimes one can have too much knowledge and not be able to see that the emperor is not wearing any clothes.
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Why doesn't Rav Mizrahi say the obvious conclusion. America is over for Jews, make aliya. Get ready for good times.
Anon, I don’t know. I think he feels that it is up to the Gedolim of the generation to issue a psak or quasi-psak. He didn’t want to get involved in the ‘vaccine’ issues, and consulted with the highest Torah Authority for a psak.
Not everyone is able to financially pick up and move. Nefesh has been holding Aliya Info Extravaganzas in New York for many years. My husband and I went to one; my husband needed to see what it was all about. As for myself, I knew I wanted to leave. After my Mother a”h passed on, I had to wait for him to be agreeable. Some people just cannot adjust to the mentality, and are not willing to ‘bend’. Just think about all the Jews who came to America at the turn of the century, and after the war, trying to get used to such a modern country after living in shtetls or dirt-road east european villages.
Not always an easy thing to do. It takes time, planning, and finances to at least get over here and be able to live somewhere initially, before settling in for the long haul. Some people have frail elderly parents, or an ill spouse to take care of.
Its a huge emotional change, and a gigantic adjustment, especially if one has school-age children.
If one is highly motivated and willing to “compromise” the success of relocating to a middle-eastern-tough-minded society can be achieved.
Neshama, I understand everything you write about the difficulties. Elsewhere I have written at length about this. There needs to be a massive organised aliya precisely to help people in the kind of situations you write about. But first of all community leaders have to be speaking about it and taking steps and putting pressure on the Israeli government to step up. I understand that it takes time, which is precisely why every American Jew has to start making plans. The best thing would be community aliya, so people can stay with other English speakers and acclimatise slowly. At some point it is going to become pikuach nefesh shel mamash, and then the usual absorption issues will become secondary to just wanting to save one's skin.
Hashem is screaming out to Am Yisrael. I believe that you posted the post about the three shofarot. I have had no rest since Pittsburg, I feel it viscerally that it will be remembered as the tipping point. On top of that the general situation in America is quite volatile, economically and also socially. America is by far the most violent developed country in the world. And as Rav Mizrahi rightly pointed out whatever happens angry, frustrated people always scapegoat the Jews.
I'm not claiming to have all the answers, but I am terribly frustrated that I have not found one rabbi on the internet from America who says that Jews have to leave. And only one in Israel. I don't know Rav Mizrahi's reason. I doubt it is because of what you say, because if that were the case he could have discussed it, as with the vaccines, but he just didn't even mention it.
I do feel that the galut of America is the worst of all being the galut of the mind. Americans are brainwashed into believing that America is the greatest country on earth, and most Jews there feel first and foremost American. Just an example: an American doctor in Israel told me about her friend who won't make aliya because of her child's medical condition. She told her friend that the care for the child's problem is better in Israel than in America, and much cheaper, but her friend refuses to believe her.
I just feel like sticking my head in the sand, as it seems to me that no-one is interested in this burning issue.
Anon. Thank you for taking the time to reply. I suggest you take your thoughts straight to Yeshiva World News and to Vosizneias do there can be an online debate. MYbe, just maybe, the thought will be taken to some Rabbis and will reach the ears of some Rabbis to get the Jews in America to rethink their future based on current warnings.
You're right, but I am not optimistic. I used to be vegetarian, not militantly, and more times than not meat-eaters at a shabbat table would attack me for this. I feel that trying to argue with most Jews in chul about this is like trying to talk to meat-eaters of the virtues of vegetarianism whilst they are tucking into their steak. The perceived self-interest is just too great to have any meaningful conversation.
As an aside, I had a thought this morning about the coming devaluation of the dollar. The dollar is actually a vehicle for spreading emuna. It is pretty much universally accepted and it is written on it "in Gd we trust". But now that the US officially goes against the seven noachide laws, its motto no longer has any value and neither will its currency.
After writing that I did a search, which google autofilled for me, on the coming devaluation of the dollar, and found this
https://medium.com/datadriveninvestor/why-america-will-devalue-the-dollar-42088956ac18
I don't know anything about economics, what I wrote above is my intuition, but here is an article stating that the Shekel is the world's second strongest currency. But yet again I think that Americans will not be able to escape their indoctrination.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/237919
What I do know however is that on a good many occasions professionals gave me truly bad advice, but I did what seemed to be common sense to me, which B"D turned out to be right. Sometimes one can have too much knowledge and not be able to see that the emperor is not wearing any clothes.
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