25 May 2011

1967, 1845, or 1812

A great speech, the Prime Minister sounded good,
he covered alot of ground (er, Land),
received great ovations from Congress,
but in my estimation it was a


This was Bibi's opportunity, and Shomayim was watching, to quote the First Rashi in the Torah, and let the world know that the "Jewish People are now back on their Land. HaShem has allowed us to return to our ancestral home and we are here to stay."

This is our inheritance, given by G-d to His children. We're sorry for what the Arabs did to the Arabs in 1948 (telling them to leave, and soon they will be able to return, after we defeat the Jews).

In 1967, response to being attacked by your peace-loving neighbors, Israel fought and won the war. The world realized it was a 'miracle'

Return to pre-'67 lines is insanity.

So said Abba Eban:

“We have openly said that the map will never again be the same as on June 4, 1967. For us, this is a matter of security and of principles. The June map is for us equivalent to insecurity and danger. I do not exaggerate when I say that it has for us something of a memory of Auschwitz. We shudder when we think of what would have awaited us in the circumstances of June, 1967, if we had been defeated; with Syrians on the mountain and we in the valley, with the Jordanian army in sight of the sea, with the Egyptians who hold our throat in their hands in Gaza. This is a situation which will never be repeated in history.” - Abba Eban, Israeli Statesman, in Der Spiegel, November 5, 1969

In fact, there are quite a few interesting conversations going around the internet.

One, attributed by Reuters:
Aboard Air Force Aleph, Speaking to reporters accompanying Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on his long flight to the United States tonight, Netanyahu spoke of the injustice and hardship Mexicans have endured since American forces annexed Texas in 1845. “Tens of thousands of ordinary Mexicans were driven out of their homes – the only homes they had known for centuries – and forced to live in poverty and squalor south of the border imposed by American aggression,” Netanyahu said.

“The Israeli and Mexican people agree on this: This festering wound will never heal until America takes bold steps to return to the internationally accepted lines of 1845. Clearly the settlement activity that’s taken place in occupied Mexico since then is illegal. When I meet the President tomorrow I will tell him to halt all building activity in Texas immediately. Two lands for two peoples, yes, but not on land taken by force from Mexico,” the Prime Minister said.

Asked if his hard-line stance could hurt the U.S.-Israel relationship, Netanyahu reiterated Israel’s commitment to America’s security and the unshakeable friendship shared by the two countries, then added,
“But who was it who said, part of friendship is being able to tell your friend the truth. The ball is now in Obama’s court.”

Two, concerning the topic of giving 'back' land:

A little known fact. The first war the US ‘lost’ [so say the Canadians] was not Vietnam.
Canada fought the US in 1812, over territory. After Obama's speech, perhaps Canadians should lobby the Harper Government to demand that the US go back to it’s 1812 borders and let Canada regain it's former land. [Wikipedia map]

From Wikipedia: The War of 1812 was a military conflict fought between the forces of the United States of America and those of the British Empire, including those of present-day Canada.

The British military unit commanded by British generals attacked Washington DC in 1814 and
burned down the White House. The White House itself was torched, necessitating a white wash, and hence its new name, "The White House." Of course the US reestablished national and defensible borders with Canada along the St. Laurence River.

Where does the so-called 'giving back land won in wars' end?

Read Barry Rubin at Pajamas:

" ... Consider this: Israel is on the verge of having four hostile and radical regimes as neighbors–Egypt, Hamas in Gaza, a Hizballah-dominated Lebanon, and Syria (which might get worse). It’s nearest ally, Turkey, has become completely hostile and dominated by an Islamist regime that–let’s face it–doesn’t like Jews generally. Its biggest enemy in the region–Iran–is increasing its influence and heading toward nuclear weapons.

And it is at this moment that Obama asks for more concessions and risks. And who are the concessions to be made to? a radical nationalist PA which is now in partnership with the openly genocidal Hamas. ..."


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