MAKES NO SENSE WHAT IS HAPPENING
I heard TWO “overhead” but about 6 SIX LANDING NOISES or two landing and 4 after noises. I say “noise(s)” because it was hard to distinguish between them. They all sounded the same, or slightly less.
Are they coming from Haifa
The US says 4 weeks to this War? That’s crazy. With all the air and sea onslaught it should be less than a week (maybe) if they are blowing up their launchers!?
I’m still not running. Neighbors with babies surely will do so. For us it’s not easy to run anywhere. We trust in Hashem that what will be will be.
The whole situation doesnt make full sense. We just need to have Emunah and Bitachon in the Abishter Who knows where everyone is and when it’s their time.
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" MAKES NO SENSE"
Nothing makes sense unless you study it. Why would you expect to make sense of what's happening unless you study:
1) Ballistics
2) Explosives
3) Acoustics (why you're hearing what your hearing. Why sometimes you hear a "thud" or sometimes a "boom"; why the sound of one explosion can sound like more than one once it reaches your ears several km away.)
"Are they coming from Haifa"
Unlikely, some one would say something out of real knowledge, not speculation.
You are correct that generally speaking, you shouldn't be running, especially if you have sufficient time to get to a protected space.
"We just need to have Emunah and Bitachon in the Abishter Who knows where everyone is and when it’s their time."
See the ספר החינוך on the מצוה of מעקה. It's a Torah obligation to do what you can to protect yourself despite that all is decreed from Heaven. That make not make sense to you, but it doesn't absolve you of fulfilling that מצוה.
Stay safe.
IRAN is NE from Israel. you havent really answered my ques.
There are enormous distances involved and the trajectory of the missile is not clear and is prone to optical illusion.
Let's start with a simple case. You are facing due west towards Tel Aviv and are watching a missile fall. Where is the missile coming from? What would it look like?
Case 1: The missile is coming straight down from space. From your perspective, at some point you will see it come into view and it will trace a straight line downwards. It would draw a 90 degree angle towards the horizon. (This case is illustrative. Missiles do not drop straight down, they curve.)
Case 2: The missile came from directly behind you, due east. You can't see it because it is launched behind you, and in any case the launch site in Iran is too far away. The missile climbs up high into space before it descends. At some point as it descends, it will be directly overhead. You can't see it, because it's too far away and you're looking west, not up. At some point in its descent, it will come into view. The line the missile would draw is also a straight line down, appearing to make a 90 degree angle to the horizon. This despite the fact that it follows a curve. But you can't see the curve, because you can't tell the distance. To you it looks straight. You can only make out the vertical component of the curve which indeed is 90 degrees to the horizon.
3) Suppose that the missile comes from due west in the Mediterranean. Even though you're facing the launch, you can't see it because it's too far away. At some point the missile will descend. At that point it's still west of Tel Aviv, but still to high for you too see because you're looking due west, not upwards towards the western part of the sky. At some point in its descent, the missile will be visible to you. The horizontal component of the curve is west, towards you. But you'll only notice the vertical component. So again, here too you'd see it make a 90 degree angle towards the horizon.
The above is merely an introduction to the illusions that can occur.
Now suppose you are looking toward Tel Aviv from the south west. Tel Aviv and the coast will appear flat to you. What will appear east? A line drawn due east of Tel Aviv will pass you from the north. A line drawn slightly north east would also pass you from the north. A line drawn slight south east from Tel Aviv may pass north of you, pass directly through you, or pass you south of you. That means a missile coming from the east of Tel Aviv, can look like it's coming from the north of Tel Aviv, or the south of Tel Aviv.
If you're north west of Tel Aviv, you'd have a similar illusion. A line draw due east would pass south of you; a line draw north east may pass south of you, north of you, or directly through you. What would the missile look like?
Here's what it can look like:
*missile
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SouthWest ------TEL AVIV-------------------HAIFA-------- NorthWest
I've drawn four asterisks to represent the path of a missile as it descends, if you drawn a line down from the highest point where the missile first appears, the line will touch Haifa. But that doesn't mean that the missile is above Haifa. It's in fact more east of Tel Aviv than north. It looks north to you because your perspective is flattened at long distances. The north component of the trajectory appears more extreme due to perspective.
Thank you this is very helpful. Now explain the trajectory on the lowest asterisk, please. Because both mornings the “missiles” sounding like a jet plane went RIGHT OVER ME (west window) west and maybe teeny slight southward) where I live, and I then went to my very East window (direction of har Habayit) to listen to the thump, which tells me how far it falls. BTW approx same time in am and same trajectory both mornings. Can anyone can tell where I am from this?
The website reformatted my comment. I typed the asterisk to form a curve, so that the topmost asterisk is over Haifa, and the lowest asterisk is above Tel Aviv.
But now I see that the asterisks are vertical on the far left. And yeah, it looks ridiculous and there's no way anyone can understand what I was trying to illustrate! I certain wasn't trying to confuse! (I'll add, that I appreciate that you're not accusing me of anything like purposely confusing you.)
Now, you mentioned sounds and directions, and I referred you to acoustics. You talking about something which sounds like "jet plane" go right over you. You certainly didn't see it. You can only guess by the sound. But how? The sounds are from such a distance, and affected by atmospheric conditions, and echo off the surrounding hills and buildings. I know very little about the subject, but enough to know that it's really complicated.
Read here: http://whealy.com/acoustics/behaviour.html
He's providing a very crude example how a listener can be tricked into incorrectly locating the source of a sound due to reflection of sound.
He's oversimplifying things of course. In the real world there's more than just one wall, and the sound itself is composed of many frequencies, each frequency will diffract differently. See here http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/Sound/diffrac.html#c2 for another crude illustration.
"Can anyone can tell where I am from this?"
I doubt it. Maybe a computer. Ask someone who is an expert in the field.
Yes bc "they" don't want identifying info that the enemy can use!
I must say that it was directly over my head, STRAIGHT past me, which leads me to believe, maybe not correctly, that it was sent from within Israel. I know you will balk at this. Saw a video fr that country last night claiming its claims. And today is eerily quied. No o/head! Am wondering what TA looks like today?
"I must say that it was directly over my head,"
The only way you can tell if it was directly overhead (approximately of course; within a few degree of 90 degrees) is if you were outside looking up.
"it was sent from within Israel. "
Not possible to know unless you saw the launch site. Why not say in came from Cyprus?
Don't tell us what you heard, tell us what you saw.
(And of course stay safe - and calm.)
Could be, good idea!
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